Ep. 090 – Adam Gets Interviewed: Copacking 101

This is a special episode where I’ve had the opportunity for some students to ask me some questions. I’ve had many, but I chose these two episodes as great examples of the advice I give to students.

So first up is Weslie Khoo, a PhD student who wants to know more about Product Developemnt and stuff like that. I do my best answering them and talk about my experience.

List of questions

After you test flavors, do you launch all at once or one at a time?
How startups can collect market research
When am I sharing too much information before launch?
Why would you go with a copacker?
How to find copackers?
Why do grocery stores private label?
Do you argue a lot with copackers?
Is there anything between a copacker and a incubator?
What is a Pilot?
How to get Packaging
What startup resources do you like?
How do you get a product out there?

If you guys have any problems with the audio, let me know. Weslie’s audio is a bit hard to listen to, and if it bothers you, let me know through podcast@myfoodjobrocks.com or linkedin. I’ll have a replacement episode with my audio switched out.

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Question Summary

Just collect data for sensory. More data the better
How do you know a product is good? Seth Godin: If ten people tell ten friends about your product, it’s a good product
Am I sharing too much information before launch?: You should be as transparent as possible, because people want transparency. If you put in more effort, then most people won’t copy you until you get big
Legal disputes can be important regarding how products work
Why would you go with a copacker?: Upfront cost of manufacturing is huge
When do you engage with a co-packer?: When you validate your product will work. One example is getting Whole Foods to demand your product, then you need to get product fast
Cottage Industry Permit
How to find copackers?: Word of Mouth, Google, some websites do this, Copacker websites suck, go to trade shows, Private Label Manufacturer Association, also friends with someone who sells a lot of things, any book that talks about making your own product
Why do grocery stores private label?: It gives higher margins
Do you argue a lot with copackers?: Yes, but you have to be competent
Is there anything between a copacker and a incubator?: Commercial kitchen or your basement
How to get Packaging: Ask the copacker to see what they recommend. Also go to Pac Expo
How do you get a product out there?: You have to go there and talk to people. Who you’re targeting, why, what they really want
Give away your product for free
Taste wins, having it healthy is better
You can have a bad tasting product, and be healthy, and it will sell, but you won’t be the best
The best Food Scientist have a mix of science or art, and it’s the consumer opinion that matters
What startup resources do you like?: Good Food, Great Buisnesses, Conferences, Fancy Food Show

Other Links

Examples of strategic market launches
Halo Top
Taco Bell

The first “health” bar
Hershey Chocolate Bar

Examples of Target Marketing
Niching – Super specifying your target market
Paleo bar – I should only focus on paleo people, nothing else matters
Keto bar
Quest Bars
Soylent
Hampton Creek
Beyond Meat
Airbnb

Examples of startup research
Susie Wyshak – Good Food Great Buisness
Fancy Food Show
The Lean Startup by Eric Ries

Who Private Labels?
Private Label vs Contract Manufacturing
Costco
Safeway
Target
CVS

 

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